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his nafig ... there was empty. Behind the tramp of bare feet, Sveta hurried to me. Not holding back, I grabbed her and grabbed her very roughly, so she squeaked in pain. - Where is she? Speak! Otherwise, I will be very unhappy. - I really do not know. I just ... - What did you do? What did you inspire her? - I ... I have a strange property for me - sometimes I am in everyday life almost as ... like a flower in the hole. But in the moment of real danger, I think clearly and clearly. Apparently my subconscious decided that just such a minute has come, because I suddenly realized that if I want to see my Lena alive, I must change tactics: - You just swore that you would fulfill any of my orders.
I wish Lena to stay alive and unharmed. Understand that if something happens to her, how can I communicate with you further? You understood me? - Yes, - having seen that I speak calmly, Sveta calmed down the same a little: - I don't know, I really don't know for sure. But I thought about the water this time ... Blockhead! Well, of course, what a fool I am! What else can she do - of course she goes to the lake. And I rushed through the bushes straight. I managed to jump ashore and in the light of the full moon peering over the edge of the forest, the stirring shadow caught my attention. Time slowed down again, I turned around and saw a naked girl figure falling into the water. Earlier than before my ears came the splashing of closed water, I was already flying there. The water was terribly cold, but I realized this only on the shore, when I had already taken Lenka there and felt the cold begin to weaken my muscles. It’s good that it didn’t happen in the water, but it wouldn’t save her and he would have drowned for anything. A shadow hung over me. Instinctively I recoiled - it was Sveta. Still naked, she was probably looking at me with no less fright than I was at her at that moment. “You ...” I asked, and, suppressing the treacherous trembling in his voice, he added: “How did you get here so quickly?” - I ran along the path. I could not like you through the bushes, - she justified. Well yes, that's right. And Lenka could not come here through the bushes. She walked along the path to the water, reached it and right here and plop. Any normal person would have immediately guessed this, if, of course, he has brains. And only I alone pretended to be an elk. Well, yes, what for elk brains? - Breathing, - said Sveta, dropping down next to us: - She needs to do artificial respiration! “Aaaa ... yes,” I finally realized. That would still know how it is done properly? It seems I saw something on TV. But Sveta stopped me: - Now, - she said seriously: - Do not hesitate to the camp. Change clothes yourself and bring clothes to her. Or at least some blanket, but quickly. - Yes, maybe I'm better ... - Do not argue! - she stopped: - If you get sick, it will only get worse. And do not worry, I promise you that I will not cause her any more harm. And now run and faster. Running along the trail was much easier than breaking through a bush. I, of course, did not change, grabbed my sleeping bag in an armful and a minute later was back on the beach. Sveta supported Lena’s head. She was already breathing, but she was still blackout.
Together we wrapped our happily rescued drowned woman into my sleeping bag, I picked her up and carried her. Behind the trail, she has minced with her bare feet of Light. And I just thought that after all, she was probably the same cold. I looked back at her. - Do not stop, - she said: - We need to go faster so that you do not have time to freeze. Your power will be needed to warm it. - In terms of? - Go, go, do not stop. You will get what you wanted. We brought an insensible body to the tent. Sveta instantly realized how to build a double bed from two sleeping bags, we put our beauty in there, and after that, Svetka did not tolerate an objection in tone and ordered me to undress too. - What completely? - I could not resist the question. - And how will you otherwise warm it? - she raised her eyebrows of Light in surprise. - Wait a minute, in the sense of warming? Do you want to say ... - Yes, - she interrupted me: - That is how you will warm it.Do not men want this from women? - But ... Light, this is wrong. I'm not like that. I can't do that. - What can I mean? Do you want to warm it up? Return to her feelings consciousness finally? Or let it remain so frozen for the rest of its life, unconscious, like a vegetable? Do you want her such a fate? - Not. But ... is she a virgin or ...? - Do not worry about it. Think only about her. And virginity doesn't matter when everyone loses. And I obeyed. I lay down with my desired and pressed my whole body to it. But the cold made itself felt. - Oh, well, what is it! - Sveta exclaimed in annoyance when she saw that I wasn’t succeeding in anything: - What is it with you, so with the men! When your strength is needed, then it is not there! - but suddenly she softened: - I'm sorry, I'm wrong. Lie so, cling to her, think about her. I will help, I will now.
She disappeared somewhere downstairs. Then I felt how soft and warm enveloped my dick. Something stroked and played with him in this warmth. - Uh, Light? - Do not be distracted, - her voice rang out: - Now you will be warm. She was right. One beautiful, albeit unfeeling girl lies in my arms, the other sucks my forceful cock. From such a stone would even be warmed. - So it will be good, - I again heard a light voice: - I will help. Like this. I realized that she was directing my weapon with her hand in the bosom of her friend and rival. Yes, it was a moment that is not given to everyone. A gift of fate. With such help, without effort, I gently penetrated the entrance, and then pulled to the full. What is really there, since such luck has turned up, then what is to be lost? It is necessary to use if lucky, that's what! Sveta emerged and pressed against Lena from the other side. Sleeping beauty was trapped by our bodies, we warmed it with our warmth, and I also warmed it from the inside. - Ebi her, fuck, do not regret, do not be afraid, - Svetka encouraged me: - You will not make her ill now. She will only be well. Come on, come on, honey, you can. Make her happy now. And she was right. That night, all three of us were happy. But there was morning ... * * * Lena's reaction was quite predictable. Of course I’m all to blame. I am a scoundrel, I took advantage of her helpless state, I raped her. But so be it, she will not claim me because it was pleasant. And even she is a bit grateful to me for such a romantic deprivation of virginity. And it was such an experience for her! But in general, I am a scoundrel anyway and she no longer wants to know me.
In short, she collected her backpack and moved toward the village, waiting for the bus. Well, I ... And what could I do? Declaration of love? And she needs it, this is my love? So I went to the lake. Looking at the water is an occupation that you can indulge in forever. Especially if you find a good place, somewhere on the hillside. There Sveta found me: - I ... - she tried to start: - Probably I am very bad ... - Everything is fine, - I answered the unspoken question: - Everything is fine. Just sorry, but right now I need to think a little. Good? I did not look back. But my back felt like she was looking at me. - Yes OK. I understood, - she finally answered quietly: - You will find me on the top of a hill. And she left. Somewhere up. And I stayed down. Alone with his thoughts - one against all of them. There is no worse enemy of man than himself. From the enemy, you can hide, and from yourself to run away? But worst of all - play too. And here now all began to play. Fritz began to play - well, everything is clear with them. So in general, not bad guys, but it’s necessary to know, to be able to stop on time. No brakes. Masters - those play the same. Oh, how funny, the people at the game are intriguing, so why would the master not stir up their intrigues? Before their eyes, people have hardly crossed the line, beyond which lawlessness - and the masters are touched. Well, not the goats? And my guys - did not play? Well, yes, of course it is very easy to say “the game is dead” and there are no problems. And in life the same will retreat every time? No, my friend you are my darling Stas, it is wrong. But if the game is dead, then it is the fault of the masters. And from the principle it was necessary to wait for the last day, and then, at the last parade, with all the masters make heads of cabbage - and set. Eat, masters dear. Do you understand now who you are? However, Lenka herself is good. Played even more and the boys confused knocked.Yes, she generally plays in life. Oh, that's what I think, goddess of beauty!
All must fall down before her. And I, therefore, unworthy, should be happy that I pulled it out of the water. Okay, Lena, I felt the same good with you, for me this is the same experience - more on people like you, not to bite. Svetka ... Yes, she started playing the same thing. Combined one thought form with another - oh, how easy the result is achieved. Well at least in the end admitted. I just can't blame her. It is not her fault. That is to blame, of course - but not she. And I ... I'm the only one to blame. This is because I combined one thought form with another. Only earlier. When I was sitting on the edge of the party, I saw two girls passing by - one was Lena, but there was also a second one - Sveta. And I thought: “Here comes the girl. So beautiful. I have nobody to call for her in any way. But I know how, I can make it so that I and only I become for her the meaning of life. So why not take advantage? She doesn’t even want to look at me - but just one of my desires, and she will love me more than life. ”And I combined thought forms. Everything is so simple! But I did the same thing as Sveta yesterday. When she thought about water, Lena rushed into the water. So I thought about Lena ... No, not about Lena, but “Let him love him” - that's what I thought. And there was still Light, ugly against the background of Lena, but so sensitive to these very thought forms. Who could have known! Yes, it was so.
The impulse created by me touched her too. After all, I was thinking not so much about Lena, as about how to prove my superiority. N-yes, with this I missed. I still have to work and work on concentration. And then Lena was furious, could not understand what kept her close to me - and so on until our short-term relationship reached a climax. After that, she reasonably found the program completed and pleased. It must now be showing off to her friends that she is no longer a girl. And telling how it was romantic. In general, this is an experience. The same experience that they all strive to gain before the wedding - and how else would it be profitable to get married in any other way? But there was still Light. Light, which, to its misfortune, is so sensitive. And that inadvertently hurt me. And here she is, burned with unrequited love for me. It burns so that it is ready to burn the whole world around itself, along with the best friend to the bargain - and all this just to please me. To earn me a glance.
To be honest, it's all my fault. It is my fault that if I were tried for all this, then I would have demanded to myself the death penalty. But now, without me, this knot cannot be untied. Lena can still thaw out and return. And more than once is the usual recoil reaction. As the pendulum swings back and forth - this is how it will be, it will still come for a long time and leave again until it calms down. She needs me, as a little support in this delirium. And for her, it's all just nonsense, as from some other world, where she accidentally brought it. The looking glass, from which she needs to help get out. And yet there is Light. For which I am now the same in response. By the way, does she seem to be waiting for me at the top of the hill? Yes, now I will get up, turn around and go to her. I will explain everything to her, of course she will understand. And together we will fix it. Be sure to correct, yes! And with that thought I smiled, got up and turned around ...
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The volume of writing is relatively large, but there is little interest, more than the weight of the text. Excitement is very small. In short, strange something, try to write something human, Cat.
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I fully support: sex is not enough, the plot is specific. Not for everyone, yes.
Here, YOU, dear, write as it should - and post your creativity here on the site, and send me a reference so that I can learn from YOU how to write ;-)
And then, I see, one author was criticized for the title of his story (although, as I noticed there, this is the author's business how to call his story), now it’s me who personally don’t excite YOU ...
No, maybe YOU are right, who argues - here and show all of us how to do it right ;-)
You know, here it is all possible - to write yourself, as he sees fit ;-)
When we see YOUR creativity, then we'll talk. Agreed?
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I okhuevu you, speaking in pure Russian! Why do you write at all ?! Only to receive compliments ??? So what the hell are the writers and authors ??? You are in this case just hacks! Write so that it would cling, but do not know how - tolerate criticism. You can do neither - bake pies.
I have a different type of activity, I am not a writer, but I can read and express my opinion. And curiosity is not a vice but a source of knowledge, and there is nothing to talk about with those who cannot admit their mistakes.
Hone the pen, if it is given to you, hacks.
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N-yes, this is talent. So briefly about yourself and say everything at once :-)
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Being able to read is cool)) Now children of 4-5 years can do it ... The main thing is not to read, but to think ... And you, Sir, cannot think at all. and the type of activity has nothing to do with it. Head, she, you know, not wearing a toko hat. If you criticize, be so kind as to sort it all out - what, how, why, why ... Doesn't it excite? Well, do not read. Why climb to where it is too tough? Why muddy water, if not drunk?
I'm not too difficult to state my thoughts? If you are too tough, I can be simpler ... As you say.
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I told you to hone your pen. Don't you understand? It's so simple: learn to write. Or nothing? Then it is better not to write, do not smudge the literature. And your humorous chatter does not roll. LEARN TO ACCEPT CRITICISM, it is necessary to become at least a mediocre author, not to mention professional writing.
Can your heads digest this information? Your ego doesn’t burp? Try, try, if in any way too, do not torment the reader with your OPES). Diane, you have no thoughts, some jokes, this is no longer fashionable, this is childish, it speaks of your stupidity and lack of respect for the reader. Listen to the reader unhappy - he is your teacher. The rest will come with experience. Arividerchi).
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And where are you from, such a masochist? Of course, I love to dominate - but in order to do this, the power of thought via the Internet even means success for me. Here, see all:
the man himself confesses that I am his one
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... I PROMOTE to read my opuses with my one thought :-)
Praise me, the Great Master!
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Being able to read is cool)) Now children of 4-5 years can do it ... The main thing is not to read, but to think ... And you, Sir, cannot think at all. and the type of activity has nothing to do with it. Head, she, you know, not wearing a toko hat. If you criticize, be so kind as to sort it all out - what, how, why, why ... Doesn't it excite? Well, do not read. Why climb to where it is too tough? Why muddy water, if not drunk?
I'm not too difficult to state my thoughts? If you are too tough, I can be simpler ... As you say.
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I know your taste - here it is, on this link:
https://eroticspace.info/story/2013-04-27/gornichnaya3.html
and say again that it was not you who left the comment there.
Yes, maybe you wrote that story yourself? Well, do not be shy, have the courage to at least put your signature. Open your face, Gulchatay :-)
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Curious, curiosity is not a vice)))
HUMAN is what? He put it in, took it out and went ... this is just the majority of those topics that are in motion here)) Did you mean that?
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Personally, I liked the story. It has a plot and an idea. This is the main thing :)
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guys here it is a pronounced difference between the humanitarian and mathematical thinking. Our curious multi-eminent, clearly lacks facts and actions to see the integrity of the picture - here it is a classic programmer, mathematician, physicist and theorist. And don't forget about biological peculiarities, after all, the majority is here for carnal pleasures, and not for psychological arousal.
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Cat, you start to show your weakness. Your last story is really not serious, and there is no plot in it. Tastes do not argue, as well as talents, but sometimes criticism is useful, it must be taken in any form, you are a reasonable author, you have to understand it yourself, but instead you start to make trouble and argue.
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Yes, I do not mind criticism. But, as my father used to say to me in childhood, there is a difference between criticism and criticism. In this case, the comrade simply tried to avenge me in this way, for our argument elsewhere (by the way, there he simply did not like the name of the story). Well, my story is really not for everyone, the person for whom it was written in the first place was from this story in admiration - the rest, yes, sorry did not please. But after all, I could not please by definition (as I wrote for one well-defined reader).
However, in justification of my own, I note that I have other, very different stories. In general, the site has a lot, a lot of different stories.
And if it comes to that, this critic has found himself a liking for himself - there, at the very top, is my replica, where I was not too lazy to give a link to what this critic likes. Apparently this completely satisfies his artistic taste - well, so who forbids him to read what he wants? Another thing is that I, as there, will not write. And from the side of this critic reproach me with the fact that I don’t want — well, I don’t want — to write like that (bad as he likes) —this ... I don't even have words. Perhaps this is a complete disrespect for all authors who write "not so" from the point of view of this critic.
So the flag in his hands - let him write himself and show us how to. This is my final opinion about such unfounded critics.
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So as not to be unfounded: note how the same criticized me
TEMArJIAH in "Unlimited Love" - this is a constructive criticism from a person who writes himself. And we have this dialogue has continued and was fruitful. This is a criticism that wants more and more.
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Cat, so be you a grown man! What are you really like a hurt child? Constructive criticism, or ordinary sympathy, do you want to be criticized in a special way? What's wrong with you? As your reader, I’m disappointed in you, and after all, in many of your comments and previous creations, you create the impression of a very, very competent person. Have the same objectivity, you can not love only positive feedback. Everyone criticizes and leaves his impressions as can.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but look - you can criticize humanly? In the end, you do not bother to write me "you" - like a trifle, but still nice. And this comrade ... well, I already said everything about him.
Several people tell me that the story was a success. I myself rated even lower than my other stories - and I value those others by no more than 7.
But then suddenly this one and only writes that it just sucks. Based on what - can not articulate. And what do you want me to do? Considering that only this one is right (who has shown himself so far from the best)?
Let's better listen to the criticism from you. At least you can explain it in a human way, what is wrong with me and where exactly. Well, or perhaps other thoughts throw
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No, now I definitely will not criticize you, otherwise you will be completely upset. “You”, “you” - this is just a person’s discretion on a particular subject, this is an individual right, because I, like everything, can write a word with a mat and say that it is an expression of emotions.
Do not like good reviews, but love bad ones, they are a reason to analyze your work.
Do not divide your readers into “best” and “best”, everyone has the right to express his opinion.And if you answer in a similar tone, or as Diana666, Zoe, then you are unlikely to be a writer worthy of publishing and discussing his works.
I wish you all the best.
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Bad bad discord, yes, alas
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Again, I remembered ... So what is it? My opinion:
- If the author knows his own price (and she really is as he thinks in reality), then he will not listen to "left" critics, especially in the internet. He will do what he sees fit.
- If such a “critic” can do something himself and does it quite well (even better than the author!) - you can listen to his opinion, because there is a lot to learn from him!
My situation: I made a weakness in a difficult period of my life, which of course I regretted later, but in the end - strong and understanding people wrote to me that EVERYTHING EQUALLY will read me despite the fact that I scream there, but weak ones like “offended” ... Well, and who won what?)) For example, I have nothing to lose - I just stopped writing and that's all - I lost nothing, but I lost readers.
Conclusion: write a real objective criticism to the author, that is, if you didn’t like it, then be sure why, and so on ... If you liked the same thing. All the pros and cons. It is humane and correct. And so if someone from the readers simply shows his fairy, then the author has the full right to simply send to ** d !! The author worked, the author “worked”, consider it what you want ... But you are still just consumers - for you, all this is done !! The author does not write "for himself"! ... Never. For myself, for example, I can not write anything, it is not interesting to me at all))
P. S. 007, I do not personally tell you, but in general to readers in general. I personally have nothing against you at all.
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Zoe, remember the devil, he will come. If you were not interested in writing for yourself, you wouldn’t write anything at all, and you’ve said that writing is your hobby, but now you’re writing for the reader? Oho-ho-ho!))) Strange you are boys, I swear strange to you, you and your komenty are reading and laughing, by the way your komenty is smarter than your stories.
All of you are WRITERS of some kind not of this world, Skuratov was not afraid to loudly declare that he wrote to Skuratov himself for himself, and for some of his impenetrable secret goals, he wrote an abstract, and the poor reader read it through the stump of a deck. your intentions, you will not immediately taste everything, as you say.
Robyaty, you write somehow so that it would be convenient for you to read, and not just your grinding.
You say, the author worked and it means you need to appreciate and cherish. So it is possible to read the whole graphite piebit on the fence and put dozens to it))). If the author knows his own worth, if he writes for the reader, he is also obliged to accept criticism, and not to press hysterics. You are authors who live at the expense of us readers, if we do not read you, you will not be.
And at Kota, I like “Undead Love”, and what does my opinion send? Well, does not catch me "Secular love" and "Played." Why? Well, somewhere cooler, somewhere not! And now, close the criticism and call it left ???)))
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By the way, it is very correctly noted: for this purpose, the most different stories are collected on the site - so that each reader can choose for himself, and what he does not personally like, you shouldn’t read at all. It's logical, right?
Therefore, we, the authors, criticism like "but I do not like," how should we take it?
But how: do not like it - do not read. And this is fair to all. Is not it so?
I try to post different (completely different) stories for different readers. And to whom it is not enough, and this, he gave references to my other stories, previously laid out in other places. In my opinion, this is my position quite respectful towards different readers.
I also want to clarify that I do not live at the expense of readers. All my stories are posted here for free. And most other authors in the same way.And what's more, there was an attempt on the part of the site administration to pass on some of its problems to the authors - and, by the way, the costs associated with these problems.
And you say “authors live at the expense of readers” - as you see, everything is just the opposite ;-)
And anyone can come in and write a review - but of course in the story that corresponds to his interests. Here, you are interested in "Undead Love" - excellent, welcome there. And to write a review about it here - well, just inappropriate. It is so?
Let me remind you once again that the controversy began with the petty revenge of one self-chosen critic - and his main argument was “but I don’t like all the authors of this site at all”
And so it is impossible. If he is such a good one, and we are all bad, then why did he even come to our site?
Because what hello is the answer.
Who is to us with something for some reason from this and that!
And with polite people it is always pleasant to speak politely ;-)
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Cat, and then you write your stories purely for yourself, print and hang houses on the wall. You fucking fuck up more than you weigh, you all need praise, you wither without them like flowers without water, you start shit up coming up with an excuse, like doing everything right. What do you care where the reader goes ??? Thank you tell me what he reads at all what you chafed. No, you are funny, when you write “everything is ok, keep writing”, you bloom and smell, but if you write “shit” - that's all, pipets, you start to pussy and provocation.
Revenge? Who is your revenge? The one you wrote a bad review? Fuck you frame.
And then you call yourself a writer?
Express your thoughts on the assorted paper and glue them with a push, since you are in such claims to the readers. No dick you are not writers, bullshit you.
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boy, you yourself said much more than you thought :-)
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)))) Ladushki, discard any political correctness, what is it for? Fuck you, comrades, all the same clowns! I wanted you to be in a good way, but you just have to give you a pussy - you aren’t fit anymore!)))) I'm a boy, am I on “You” I fucking “funny”?))) principle. “YOU” understand what you just said? First, what the reader writes for himself, then right there, that the author depends on the readers, then immediately he pooled himself from this and suddenly the writer does all this ... for money? !!! What nah money at all, and here ???))) Bitch, just a low-grade clowning and I would say a moron! Nobody here is obliged to cherish anyone - just like us, uv. READER, fuck! I'm fucking right, as always ... As always. Readers are clearly divided into normal ones - they just criticize and sometimes cruelly, but HOW they competently do it - that they will not reproach! Here I just listen to them. And on fagots - pitiful, cheap, writing under different nicknames, and you can see it, believe me, like two two ... Do you have enough courage even to give a fuck up to register, not like so much more writing than that ... no name for you! Believe me))) I mean damn?)))) I am not a damn - unfortunately, I would like to be - to find you and see what you imagine!)))) And I am sure that there is not much. Slightly ambition, under such a real pacle, who knows life, yes ...)) Do you damn funny to read others - then laugh at what YOU are doing here then? You fuck a real kid ?? ...
The answer is - yes, we, the authors, are all a bit NOT from this world, and that is why we can create something. Let a little but all the same. We have this DANO)))))) And you can yell with this phrase as much as you want, and with me too, I am sure you are doing it now))) You are readable to madness, understand? And before I answer something, although it is not at all interesting to me, because everything is already clear in advance, think - WHAT and in what place did you normally commence?))) Are you a critic? All I see is stupid trolling, with raising my ChSV to the public. This does not actually make you taller, and unfortunately only lower because trolling in the internet is probably the most pitiful act of the modern youth - this is the whole maximum that they can ... Unfortunately.
P. S.I advise Comrade Kotu to just score on the comments and not to participate in them at all - all questions are ONLY in a personal!))) WHAT someone would not write there - just ignore. You'll see - in time they will NOT be interested. And yet - funny BUT fact!
Do you know, comrades, that the site admins sometimes "clear" trolling stories?)) Yes, yes! For all I will not speak, I will say only for myself - my last story started pretty troll and I noticed. Stupidly stopped writing. Nah need?)) Rating dropped to 6 somewhere ... But one day it became 11, 7 !!! How so? It turns out that after some time the admins remove all the "0" that were set - since you should agree, the story cannot be written in "0" !!! Well, at stake - well, this is also unlikely, but all the same ... And zero is just trolling. So - it turned out that if you remove all “0” and LEAVE all ratings from 1 to 10 (+ bonuses up), it turns out that objective readers rated my story at 11, 7!))) I hate numbers and I don’t write letters, but stupidly on this particular example, everything is visible and understandable without words at all! The same situation in the comments. So, HB Cat - now just submit such comments as those "0", and everything will fall into place. Understanding people who probably will relate to my message with positive and humor - “Hello, everyone!”, And for those who did not understand anything, send NOW!
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In! This is Zoe!))))) The guy again fell into his image tantrum, carry valerian))))). Even the word PEDERASTS cannot write correctly). And you after this replica writer?))))))))). You are not a writer but a google producer. Properly done, that with his writings tied. I praise you for this!
In general, guys, you proved who among you is capable of. Masters! Creators!)))))))).
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+1 I wrote it intentionally incorrectly, so that you, maestro, understand what it is about. And your reaction to this was confirmed at 100!) And at the expense of hysteria - I write all this with an unreal smile))) I wrote in all my comments that I am not a Writer at all. Compared to someone great, I am nobody, but in comparison with the usual inetical LoL'om, yes, I am the author!)))) And this only says that I am not familiar with my stories or with my comments ... Do you want to judge me?)) And lastly - why should I call you a homosexual?)))))) That's what you wrote. I called Pidoras - because it is just a curse but does not indicate sexual orientation) Yes, I can be different. I admit. I write - I have to go in different roles ... And sometimes in these so that my "reader", and in this case, YOU were clear about what I am talking about.
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Yes, it is too late, it is too late to make excuses and change shoes, you have long shown what you can do, only real fagots can write like you. You are not different, you are sick.
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So be it.
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Ah yes, Zoe!) Right, what would write like that, you need to think carefully, write or not write, you just look: “Ladushki, let's throw off all political correctness, why is it?” Well, Zoe))). And really, what is it for, this political correctness? After all, there are only clowns))). Let's all fuck, this is the meaning of life).
Fun, I missed a lot in the month of my absence. I searched and searched for a less informative story, and here it is, from Mr. Kota).
I have a question for all of you guys), for all persons involved in one person, because you expressed one opinion. Question: Is trolling smart?)
My opinion, as a registered author on a topic that has been turned so emotionally here: the author still writes for the reader. First, he produces something for it, and then he realizes that this “something” must be seen by someone in order to be understood and drawn for some kind of conclusion.
Otherwise, it makes no sense to write-create, and all the more so desperately to assert our rights).
But to send a dick, it is definitely impossible, they will not understand, and even more they will die.
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Do authors live at the expense of readers? HA! Does anyone read what I wrote to me like this? I wrote before this site, and not only porn for myself, and for friends, and to order ... I have thoughts that I want to state in print - and I do it! Regardless of who will read it and read it at all! I'm glad when people like what I wrote, but I'm glad not for myself, but for them! Good morning.
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Carefully read the story and comments. Everything is impossibly strange, the story pulls at the top three, as well as it was appreciated by him from the very beginning. But the fact that you TEMArJIAH spit on what someone read what you wrote, whether you want it or not, but it is absurd. You contradict yourself, you say that you are happy when people like what you have written. You are happy for them, that is, for the readers, and this means that you do not spit. Yes, you yourself probably understand this, just do not want to admit.
On the one hand, this conversation is stupid, but on the other, it is very relevant. For all the comments, only one thing is visible: the authors defend their position as soon as they can, with a “cheek”, which means that they are wrong. It seems to me that any author writes for someone, and this is normal, and to deny this fact even as a joke is somehow not aesthetically pleasing to oneself.
Yes, and what's the difference, the reader will indicate the moments that he did not like in the story, or will not indicate? The main opinion. And the fact that the author begins to show his insults, it speaks of his weakness.
It’s ridiculous to mention the current book market, because the rating is grown by promotion, and just those 70% of “Twilight” excuse me a frank surrogate.
You want to be writers, you must respect the reader, listen to him and listen.
Although, this is just low-grade porn.
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I answer your question: “The authors defend themselves as they can, which means they are wrong!” - at least strange. Here is the system:
- There is a website and its administration, which allows us to publish here, why - read on ...
- There are authors, we write stories for readers (and obviously not for ourselves - this is so clear) and thus indirectly create the site a number of views. Yes Yes! Only a madman to disagree.
- But the reader is already going longer - on the one hand, this is TOT for which it is all done (to entertain you! That is, you are the main people!) But on the other ... the reader is THAT on whom the site actually earns ( advertising). That is, a peculiar unit of income, how many views = so much money. (And do not be offended, I say this not in order to offend but in order to make it clearer!) Who are we, the authors ?! Answer the question this way:
Who benefits? The site earns to live - I think this no one has any complaints! You readers get your pleasure for the sake of which you are actually here - everyone has their own reasons and preferences. And we, the authors, are intermediaries, original guides between the site and you, the readers! So what is our benefit? Yes, that's nothing !!! We get nothing for it, BUT - when we are praised (suppose), then we see that we worked not for nothing, and this is the highest reward for us. This is the ONLY reward. We get nothing more. If we are not praised but constructively criticized - this is also not bad, yes, this is less buzz but it helps us to become better! This is 100%! It would seem - according to this scheme, everything is OK in principle and everyone is happy, BUT!
What if the author is simply stupid to understand why they begin to troll? (I think this term is clear to all). Just like that - not a criticism, but simply an unreasonable and unjust relationship There is only one conclusion - since we are on the site - the SITE should protect us from this (such as a promoter), he should, in theory, remove this trolling and ban it - so by the way in all forums and DO! But unfortunately you will not follow everything and no one is clearly engaged in this. And it is well known that creative people are very sensitive and vulnerable - which in turn allows them to create but makes them vulnerable! That is, the “patrolled” author can no longer write anything so simply the desire, the hunt, the motivation, etc., disappears ... With this we answered the question - WHAT PROFITABLE from this for the troll.Simply eliminate the author and rejoice further. As a result, whoever loses - YES, YOU are the same readers and lose the COOL author, in exchange for the fat troll!))))) We don’t really lose anything, because we don’t have anything at stake!))) Do you understand? That is, we ourselves are respectively forced to defend ourselves! No one else.
Conclusions: I believe that every author simply should not react to such pests and be able to ignore them - and everything will be in chocolate ... But, damn, how sometimes it is difficult!))) That's the problem itself. And now think, but only well - is that what I wrote wrong above? But now after this, they will start trolling me again, and so on ... Is that what is wrong? Still, it’s right and logical and you fucking argue with it ... So I always wrote before the moment when the trolls got me for the most I don’t want and what you later observed and was in fact my most basest manifestations ... So this is it. Whoever agrees with me - plus whoever doesn’t - minusueme, and it will immediately become clear how many who. All I wrote here is logical.
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Gentlemen, do you hear yourself? How old are you? What are you carrying? You yourself are not funny? You can not speak in a civilized way, but you require a constructive. That obscene, something logical, who are you? Drunk Esenin? In each of your comments clearly traced the same thing: we are right, we are right, but they are not. This is so in the younger groups of the nursery the children scream at each other, tearing out the candy.
“Zoi”, “TEMArJIAH”, “The Scientist Cat” - it feels like the same person is writing, splashing wild emotions in different ways, some ridiculous surface reasons, a departure from the topic, stubbornness. What are you fighting for? And most importantly with whom? For your work with the reader? So you prove that you are talented and smart people? Is it normal? Literature has always depended on the readability assessment, you do not know? From one comment to another dirty curses and not a word about reconciliation, not strange for the authors? You still have an armed security guard, and for every disgruntled reader with a baton on the head, thoughts are not to your taste. Even your opponents are already silent, and you are arguing at the “ruble”, are they adults? This sarcasm of yours shows your revenge and attempt to hurt your opponent.
Stupid again who? Reader?
This is a site pornorasskazkaz, what do you talk about? Readers hurt you? Trolls? If you consider your conclusions logical, then your logic does not deserve even a shadow of attention.
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as they say - "Stalin is not on you !!!"
and with a cudgel, the idea is good)) oh, times are wild, as I sometimes miss you !!
Anaconda, are you aware that we are three authorized users, not guests ?? we each have their own stories! and together we hold on to the fact that if we do not intercede for each other, such trolls like you here will ruin everything. it’s not difficult for us to open our circle of interests right now in the same contact and it’s not going to drag away good authors from here and what will you, readers, stay with? we didn't look for enemies, you yourself found us
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Dear, we did not move to familiarity, follow the language and pronunciation. If Stalin had been there, you definitely would not have been. Enemies? Are you even in sober memory?
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In short, they came ... Then judging by your opinion, I am just a successful author (conditionally) - I have high ratings and my fans are full of ratings and ratings with comments are also 80% positive ... Cool! I wash hands.
Now it turns out that the authors are not authors, but all this is one person ...! Maybe then there’s only 1 author here at all and he’s the reader who arranged it ALL here, and he’s probably the owner of the site also ... In short, I’m dumping! It's time to go. Already, I wrote everything in detail - so I got it all the same. There above it is clearly stated (!) That the authors and readers are dependent on each other, this is the balance, if you are not satisfied with the position of equality, that is 50 \ 50 and you still consider yourself the most important, then I am not your slave and write such an attitude is not going to. I do not owe anything to anyone.
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The next comment from which alias will be? Everything is clear with you.
Good advice at the end of the so-called authors: learn to respect the interlocutor, even if he does not understand you. And if there is a misunderstanding and there is no solution - get away from the conversation.
This is the truth of the intellectual, which should be a competent person and not a slave.
p. s. Creativity is only then creativity, when it is offered, and not imposed and nibbles.
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Zoi, handsome! I already hold on right, so that now they don’t rush into Buddhist philosophies)
anaconda, Stalin was, and I am) and even then it was necessary to ask not in sober memory, but in my right mind! and then ponakhvat fragments of phrases, but really do not understand their meaning! And, yes, of course, we are enemies because we are definitely not friends, and since the diologist between us is already going on, the principle of super position does not apply to us
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to someone who did not write anything, the authors do not understand! and I did not contradict myself, just my thought is deeper than your understanding of it.
And it is not aesthetically pleasing in the shit to get dirty or to cut off only one hand, not aesthetically either. But most of all it was not aesthetically pleasing to insert the word “aesthetically pleasing” into that sentence, because its presence is just silly and does not express a thought!
why it was necessary to repeat my thought about the market, trying to oppose it to me? waiting for that, I'll start arguing with myself ?? well - well, good luck! it will take a lot! otherwise I just don’t know what can make me do it!
And finally, the crown of your tirade - "Although, this is just low-grade porn."
then what are you doing here? why are you reading this? is that kind of masochism? or do you like to fall in shit? ... you are here and you are reading this, so why are you better? !!
the only one from whom you can listen to the advice is the other authors, and the local “guests” are mostly trolls, just like you!
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Yeah, you kind of "talk under pressure." Well, in this case, dear writers, you write each one for yourself, make an introduction: “I write for myself expressing thoughts”, and roll reviews for yourself, praise yourself if you are so flattering and unwisely vulnerable.
I wonder for whom books are written and sold? If not for the reader? For the beauty of shop windows? Funny.
So read your creations after that. Thank you for your frankness.
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I will explain what you have done now - you did this:
007 = Joi
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books write for money! and just for the money! let alone the fact that marketing accounts for 70% of sales success, I think no one needs to say. otherwise, twilight and metro were selling.
And most importantly, no one is forcing you to read, not forcing any specific authors or specific topics to read. We do not cram our tin into romantic stories, so all of you were here only by your personal choice. Blame yourself for choosing that particular story that you didn’t like, blame yourself for the fact that, in spite of it, they still read all their disinterest to the end and read seven more pages of comments. It was all your personal choice! The author initially warned that sex is not enough. Why do you even then read it all - a porn help to you, everything will show you in detail without further ado
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Or let us - the authors - pay money for each comment to our stories ;-)
This, by the way, is fair, because for each viewing of the story the site’s rating grows - which means the site can earn more from advertising.
So let the administration reward us for our work ;-)
Let them collect money from disgruntled readers - then the claims of these readers will be substantiated. Who pays something and orders music. That's when we, the authors, will please the reader - who pays us.
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Summarizing the debate:
Against - only 1 person spoke, going under different nicknames. In short - a ghost of some kind
Over - spoke a few people, each of whom is the author himself. That is real people.
Total:
I will listen to the opinions of real people.
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So, now the books are written only for money. Great! And who pays money? Isn’t the reader? Well, if books are written only for money, then you are writers, obviously you will not scrape even on bread, let alone butter. Cat, you do not know how to lose, that's what your trouble is, and you enter under different nicknames. And about 70% of sales should not be said, no one has proved this, any rating can be faked, and it is not a secret to anyone that all these twilight and the metro are a shirk for teenagers who do not read smart things.
The outcome of the debate? What kind of debate? Is this a debate? Now, if a man said thirty for your story, then yes, you can listen. Although you yourself can come up with these thirty votes.
And you still frame, you can not recognize their defeat. Come on, come up with something tricky.
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here I am now, it seems I’ll go back to the mat! joi just go to bulk! everything is clear with you
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Lord writers, send their readers fuck. Cool. Original Score ten points to you.
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By the way, the name has acquired a new meaning - “Played,” this is not about the story but about commenting on it!))) I personally fold the fishing rods. The author, I recommend, write some cool story based on the comments)) The idea will be original! And what a plot! ..
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The author, about non-substantive criticism, if you don’t want to listen to her and do not take it into account, why comment on her? you just smelled the opinion of a few people that does not raise your authority ...
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+1! Thank you, Pal, by the way, and it concerns me. Fair Learned
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Here you are interesting people, I watered the mud of everyone, and the bumps on the cat!
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The author, about non-substantive criticism, if you don’t want to listen to her and do not take it into account, why comment on her? you just smelled the opinion of a few people that does not raise your authority ...
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I apologize for the double koment Internet lagged
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What is most interesting is that none of the participants in the dispute could explain the reason for the dispute. The authors are offended by the readers, and the second at the first. But each of them, blames each other for nothing). Writers, let it be your way, you write for yourself. But why are you then published? Any action and desire has some kind of goal, the creator has something to create and it is OBLIGATIVE to SHOW your creation, and if not, then there is no satisfaction from your creation. Suppose you do not depend on the readers, but in this case, where does your outrage from criticism come from? Are you offended that you supposedly unfairly underestimate? So, therefore, you still need to be noticed and expressed some opinion? You want to find something good in your work, you depend on it, you are pleased. And only in this case, readers can buy something. If nothing good is found, then they will not read, and they will not buy the book. Dependence on the reader is.
You are the authors, you do not understand one thing, when the reader pays at least some attention to your work, this is already good. As the artists say: it is better to let them know us badly, than they do not know at all. Well, someone didn't like something, so what? Forcibly cute will not. And the fact that you, the authors are so nervously proving that you are right, say that you do not depend on the readers - you are mistaken and deceitful. Who will read your works if not the readers? Just the reader's opinion and makes the author a writer. I am wrong? Then why do you need art? And all the actors would speak for themselves, but no, they work for the viewer, there is no concert without the people.
There is a consumer - there is a rating, there is a demand. Okay, suppose a writer writes for himself, acquaintances, but in this case, even if he does not post his creation to the public, even if he is not indignant that someone didn’t like something.
Regarding this story, the Curious seems to have substantiated his criticism, but the author set off in boldness, and could limit his answer to the first phrase. Why dispute? Proof of? Give a link, who writes better ... Is there a contest here? Even the pros do not behave like this. So it is impossible, the author is a creator, not a brawler.
In general, the conversation turned out to be a good one, it was necessary to discuss this topic a long time ago, and then how anyone comes into his head, he will write like that, and don’t say a word to him.
Be objective, creators.
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im about Thomas, they are about Yeremu! when critics begin to relate to their comments, just as they call the author to relate to his work, then this will be an objective dialogue, but until then all this would be “if only it would pin someone!”
and readers, do not forget that the relationship is two-way! there is a demand from you too!
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I apologize for being away for a long time - a big family is a big deal. Yes, here's another brother started all the garbage out of the garage to take ...
What is it about garbage?
Yes to the fact that
ONLY ONE person ON ALL SITE - WRITES GADDIES IN COMMETARIES under DIFFERENT NICKES.
Anyone can notice this - look, all the guests here write in exactly the same style! Awesome coincidence, isn't it?
And exactly the same style of speech in the comments of disgruntled readers to other authors.
Guys, there is only one little bastard who spoils our nerves here.
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Of course, I'm sorry, but I’m forced to take a more side of the readers, you have, the author has some kind of obsessive "paranoia", and you, in spite of your literacy, are not ethical. Anyone has the exact same right to write as you, and you do not have special authority to insult anyone. Take care of your nervous system, and not the investigation of styles who writes. Take care of your health.
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in truth, everything is on my side here - and you are the very first
;-)))
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To tell you the truth, firstly, not everything is on your side, secondly, you don’t have the best habit of obsessively learning (this is called bad manners), thirdly you’re not a cat at all, rather some kind of mean werewolf in the fourth, you can’t give in even when wrong. I read many of your comments on other stories. Former military? The officer? You have got a big family? And living in the internet and trying to be all first, smarter, and most negatively - trying to humiliate others with all your “elegant” ways. You have a developed speech, but there is no tact to use it, to hear and listen to other people. Shame on the officer.
Because of such military, our army has a sad reputation. However, I am not your judge, but your conscience, if yours does not suffer from pride. But I suspect that your conscience is ill, this is evident from your behavior.
What remains to tell you? I do not envy you.
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Well, whether you want to or not, but see for yourself - you are for me. Already the second day you increase my popularity.Remarkably emphasize all my virtues - an interesting biography, great life experience, the ability to express a thought, and most importantly - the presence of conscience. Exalt me higher than I deserve. And you do it so sincerely ... So successfully place the words “I DON'T END YOU” - this is either the great art of fine flattery or sincere recognition ...
Well, frets. I agree to peace
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Cat, you're down here specifically, lost all his scholarship))). You are weak, and no officer, you are word-blunt)))))). Kick tobe and your glory. Ha ha!))). Nobody wants to talk to you. Chat with yourself.
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joi, i'm still here, so break off! It would be interesting to listen to what you, gentlemen, do and how much did you pay for flat feet?
you are already not even sucking the claims out of your finger, but have gone down below: “the officer should not speak like that!”. Well, in this case, you should not argue with the senior in rank! all written direct orders to them! start the execution!)))))))))))))))))
now about werewolves, leprikons and gremlins !!! do you even come up with such a comparison ?? you might as well ask: are you iron, earth or red? !!! you do not know what the words mean - pick up the suitable ones by your intellect!
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Yes, intellect ... A clever person in his place would not have entered a discredited nickname - and he, naively, thinks that it is cool :-)
You know otchego he tries so hard here? And because he thinks we are only in this comment all day yesterday and talked. It doesn’t occur to him that we had quite a parallel correspondence about so many interesting things - and more than that noted here in the comments of people.
You see, he is alone. All alone, in life. And his wife kicked out of the house and no friends, no one needs. And here, on the site, he showed himself so that no one wants to communicate with him.
And we all communicate. Here, besides what I probably wrote about three dozen letters with you yesterday, I still managed to do it with others - about the theory of relativity, and about the transmigration of souls, and about which they did not discuss.
We communicated with each other, only occasionally having fun here with comments. We for fun. Like a stupid game, purely to defuse the brains.
And all this time he sat, puffed, and seriously invented how to fool us ...
poor fellow
Just imagine:
we are for him only letters on the screen - well, I don’t like them, so don’t read.
What kind of humiliated state a person should go in real life to get so angry - on the computer!
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I’m more sorry for you, Koshak, I thought you were at least as much as the author, and you are just a virtual jitter under different names. And also “I, I, a learned cat, an officerium” !!!))). "My wife, a big family"))). Yes, you have no family, right hand and porn in the internet is your wife. I sell computers, and you jerk from morning till night on the site. Smart people stopped talking to you, and you sucks. Boy you are anxious and offended, you react to every comment as a girl. It is impossible to allow such caps to the captains, not to the officers, this is a shame, a shame and once again a shame even for the Russian army. What are you “commissioned” for? Jerking a lot? Or taught jerking others? You were mistakenly called a gremlin, you are not a gremlin, you are a diarrhea worm, a moldy worm in a simple way. Replace the nickname cat on the "Pitkin behind enemy lines" and crawl to health. You have even bothered me, the nausea virus. Touch the shit and whine. Ugh.
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Cat, did you see it ??? he is a manager !!!))))))))))) although I am surprised :)))))))))))
the kid is so furious))))
joi so how is it working in the Eldorado? do you feel your indispensability? your need for the world? Are you aware that acne in McDuck earns you more? although surely in the know! everyone earns more than you))
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I still would not see. The trick is that for me (as the author of this story) comes a notice about each comment. And to all others, only notifications about replies to their replicas come ;-)
Now notice: I after all wrote the answer to your remark ;-)
and no one else was sent to you about my reply to you ;-)
Apparently this popularity :-)))
P. S. And we argue, he will answer again? Although I again wrote the answer to your cue; -) Here I put the ruble that will respond at the latest immediately after lunch
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he is by the way sure that I am you!)) I started to be offended - why I spit it, but they answer you. he is completely unaware that I am not under the guest nickname)) so that now it turns out that you, the Cat, wrote not three stories but six, and two more three years ago)
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Well, I do ... like Brezhnev!
Do you remember the joke about the “Little Land”?
Various officials, ambassadors of other powers, consuls and others come to Brezhnev, and he asks everyone:
- Well, what is your opinion about the book "Small Earth"?
And, of course, everyone says:
- A wonderful book, Leonid Ilyich!
Finally the last one is gone. Brezhnev walks over to the shelf, picks up the “Little Land”, looks at it and says to himself:
- Wow! Good book! It is necessary though to read what I have written there
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With me ruble. the guest showed up much later than dinner - the mask is different, but the words are the same, that's for sure. But in any case, it's too late, so I admit, ruble from me
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)) damn, missed where his koment. stupid system - it’s better to have a direct order
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TEMA is not a stupid system - is it a misunderstanding?
When and when did you serve? I just have a suspicion ...
Who are you and where do you work? I just see you not ...
You only answer. I see you are here for the second day, like honey smeared. Well, I can not go past such a frame.
I have such a whole collection already.
I will not argue, just answer the questions and all.
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Oh, such pies rushed)))
1. it is not a question at all! formulate the idea more precisely
2. and I did not serve, I earn too well for this)
3. let's say, I solve problems related to networks
Yes, and I sit here is not the second day, and yes, plastered) and then what are you destinies and goals? you immediately say, are you the next incarnation of joi? Well, do not hide! it won't hurt
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Do you mean that only losers serve in the army? Well, like there is no dough to hang out, let's serve the horse. So?
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oh, well, really, what a ridiculous attempt to push me with the Cat! thinner need to act, joi, thinner))
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That's not the point. Theme, Scientist Cat knows me.
He just didn’t believe me that you are a respected Subject Dummy.
I immediately rated you low, and now, in general, you have fallen very low.
You have designated your position in life. Yes, and you have no fabulous earnings. You stupid for this. Mummy did not let you go, otkosila, and you are happy. Let others serve, and you hang out in porn at this time. Well, let's continue in the same vein.
Dear Cat Scientist, such friends do not save you, they drown you.
So much for oh ...
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This is not the one. Honest word is not the same. Look at the style. This has already come a completely different person with a completely different joke. By the way, this is just a prankster - well, sometimes jokes are not entirely successful. Well done, no one is perfect ;-)
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oh, the Cat, he is so funny !!!)) and you still have these ???)) still, I still want !!!
look, he considers my money)))
and here it is: “I immediately appreciated you not highly!”, oh, but this is so offensive to me! no, how, such a person ... and me ... not high !!!
guys in general, you know that I am an energetic vampire, I can sit here for years and eat your bile. Well you bring yourself to nervous exhaustion))) spit, spit! I'll die))
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You leave the cakes in each other, and then laugh. Writers.
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By the way, this is an interesting fetish, thanks for the idea!
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Pzdts ... And this srach was missed by me, bgggg!))))))))
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